On the first podcast of TM Live, Andrea Cetrulo, Programme Curator at TM, is joined by Brazilian performance artist Paul Setúbal, and architect and TM Associate Elahe Karimnia. Touching on themes of the body, choreography, and violence, this conversation informs TM’s ongoing research project Choreographing the City, which questions the ways we move in cities and how choreography can challenge or reveal our understanding of urban design.